Comments on: IDM for the Uninitiated http://culturespam.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/idm-for-the-uninitiated/ Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:47:14 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Whey http://culturespam.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/idm-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-52 Whey Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:14:29 +0000 http://culturespam.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-52 Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit. cheers, Whey. Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway … nice blog to visit.

cheers, Whey.

]]> By: Ed http://culturespam.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/idm-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-50 Ed Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:30:38 +0000 http://culturespam.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-50 Yeah, the e-mag is where i first read it, though it was apparently printed here two months earlier. Here you go: im·per·son·al –adjective 1. not personal; without reference or connection to a particular person: an impersonal remark. 2. having no personality; devoid of human character or traits: an impersonal deity. 3. lacking human emotion or warmth: an impersonal manner. Yeah, the e-mag is where i first read it, though it was apparently printed here two months earlier. Here you go:

im·per·son·al
–adjective
1. not personal; without reference or connection to a particular person: an impersonal remark.
2. having no personality; devoid of human character or traits: an impersonal deity.
3. lacking human emotion or warmth: an impersonal manner.

]]> By: olywood http://culturespam.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/idm-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-49 olywood Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:01:09 +0000 http://culturespam.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-49 The article was originally written for an e-mag who wanted a piece specifically on IDM, outlining its history, its future and a few of the current big names just to give you some proper context. I think your preaching to the choir abit about IDM being fragmented to non-existent btw, why do you think i compared it to triphop? Both are genres that have never 'really' existed in any proper communal sense. As for smashing the fallacy that is 'music genres' in general, i think thats a topic id prefer to save for an academic essay or a full length piece. Because obviously by deconstructing genres youd have to eventually deconstruct categorisation itself, not something you can convincingly pull off in an 800 word opinion piece. Not sure what you mean by impersonal style btw - using direct personal pronouns = personal, impersonal would be if i cut themout altogether. The article was originally written for an e-mag who wanted a piece specifically on IDM, outlining its history, its future and a few of the current big names just to give you some proper context.
I think your preaching to the choir abit about IDM being fragmented to non-existent btw, why do you think i compared it to triphop? Both are genres that have never ‘really’ existed in any proper communal sense.
As for smashing the fallacy that is ‘music genres’ in general, i think thats a topic id prefer to save for an academic essay or a full length piece. Because obviously by deconstructing genres youd have to eventually deconstruct categorisation itself, not something you can convincingly pull off in an 800 word opinion piece.
Not sure what you mean by impersonal style btw – using direct personal pronouns = personal, impersonal would be if i cut themout altogether.

]]> By: Ed http://culturespam.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/idm-for-the-uninitiated/#comment-48 Ed Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:32:55 +0000 http://culturespam.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-48 IDM? That's got to be about the most defunct term in the land of genre-isation hasn't it. And as for Post-rock... you talk about the music industry changing over the last ten years, where have you been for those ten years?! This article would have been quite neat if you'd written it in about 1996. Now it's just expressing posthumous opinion about a non-existent, or at best fragmented genre. Besides, (though you've had a decent try) it's fallacy to attempt to stereotype any genre, especially one as complexly founded and voiced as electronica / IDM. What's more, I really don't think you can just talk at length about an entire genre - a constantly evolving organic network of sounds, performances and artists - as one thing, without making any reference to it's protagonists. The issue is probably that if you broke out of this impersonal style you'd realise how silly much of what you're saying is when contextualised. IDM? That’s got to be about the most defunct term in the land of genre-isation hasn’t it. And as for Post-rock… you talk about the music industry changing over the last ten years, where have you been for those ten years?! This article would have been quite neat if you’d written it in about 1996. Now it’s just expressing posthumous opinion about a non-existent, or at best fragmented genre.

Besides, (though you’ve had a decent try) it’s fallacy to attempt to stereotype any genre, especially one as complexly founded and voiced as electronica / IDM. What’s more, I really don’t think you can just talk at length about an entire genre – a constantly evolving organic network of sounds, performances and artists – as one thing, without making any reference to it’s protagonists. The issue is probably that if you broke out of this impersonal style you’d realise how silly much of what you’re saying is when contextualised.

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